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A look inside my academic job search

Posted by reyjunco on February 21, 2012 in Commentary |

Academic job search compassFor those of you who are regular readers of my blog, this post is very different than what you are accustomed to seeing here. While I usually keep my posts professional (I’ve often joked that writing for my blog is like writing mini journal articles), this post is incredibly personal. I’ve been thinking about writing it for some time, but quite frankly, haven’t had the guts to do it because it’s “not the way we do things” in academia. Interestingly enough, I tend to rail against the notion of doing things in certain ways just because that’s “how we’ve always done it.”

Last week, I was having a conversation with a close friend about my job search and she astutely noted that while I’m quite transparent online when it comes to many other areas of my career, I’ve kept my job search a secret. While her statement wasn’t the impetus for this post, it was certainly the reason I decided to write it sooner rather than later.

You see, I’ve been on the job market for a few years now. This is no surprise to the people who are close to me (as well as my department chairs). I am grateful for the support my institution has granted me over the years, but as I continue to specialize in my field, I am finding that my current position is no longer the right fit. While I’m considered faculty, 75% of my time is allocated to being a student affairs administrator at a non-research focused university. Although that’s been rewarding, as my career has evolved I have focused more on my research and with that has been a related desire to teach more and to mentor graduate students. Even though my research and writing time is limited by my administrative duties, I’ve been able to publish a great deal in top-tier journals. So, I’ve applied for many faculty positions in the last few years. I’d love to be in a department at a research institution where my colleagues are also conducting research in similar areas. I envision collaborating with other faculty members within my home department and across departments (as I’ve already done in some of my research projects). I also envision teaching graduate courses and advising, mentoring, and collaborating with graduate students to share my passion for teaching and research. Furthermore, a research institution would have the support structures in place for other research-related activities like obtaining grants and collecting large-scale data sets.

Now here comes the part that might come as a surprise—I have received rejection after rejection for these positions. Most of the time, these rejections come without ever getting an interview. In a few rare cases, I’ve actually gotten campus interviews to later learn that someone more junior or much more senior had been hired. Even more surprising is that when I have gotten an interview, I’ve been given positive feedback about how well I did. And herein lies the disconnect—while having had much success with my research, I have had no success at finding a new job. In the past year alone, I’ve applied to ten positions, and because of feedback from a few trusted colleagues I even expanded my search beyond student affairs, higher education, and counselor education programs.

I’ve considered many possible explanations, some of which include personality (It would be easy to understand if I was a jerk, but I’m not—people actually like working with me), institutional type (it’s not easy to go from a teaching institution to a research one), my current position as mainly an administrator, and the fact that I’m a full professor and that committees might think I want to come in at that rank. Of all of the possibilities I’ve considered, I’m beginning to consider what might be the likeliest explanation—the fact that I am the only person doing this type of research in education. As far as I know, there are no other educators examining the academic and psychosocial impact of social media. You would think this would be intriguing to a department or a search committee; however, it makes me an outlier. Most of you reading this blog “get it” when it comes to using social media in productive ways; however, I’m guessing that most of the people evaluating me on search committees don’t. My take is that my work is seen as more of a curiosity. I also wonder whether some may think that my work would lead to major shifts in academia and/or the loss of faculty jobs. But to be quite honest, those are only guesses. It’s clear that my research is different than what others are doing in my field, and that very well could be the explanation.

I realize that sharing this is risky especially since academics don’t talk publicly about their job search. But quite frankly, what’s the worst that could happen? It’s not like a potential employer is going to read this post and not hire me—that’s already been happening well before I wrote this. Besides, whether I like it or not (and to be clear, I don’t), the field of higher education may be trying to tell me something—and it may be time for me to look elsewhere and begin checking out opportunities in the private sector. If you happen to know of an organization looking for someone like me, please feel free to share this post and my cv with them.

If what I’ve written resonates with you, I’d love to hear from you. I’d also love to hear from you if you have some feedback to share or have a story to share about your experiences with the academic job search process. Please leave a comment and I promise I’ll reply to every one.

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  • http://twitter.com/lizgross144 Liz Gross

    I’m so glad you wrote this. Although it was only one isolated case, I’ve had the same feeling. You feel great after an interview, you’re confident you presented yourself well…..and then, you’re “not a good fit.” Perhaps, because the hiring committee couldn’t understand what you were talking about. Or, they totally understood it and were afraid of the change it would bring.

    The media glamorizes those who innovate. The reality is, they’re often ostracized or written off as a fad. I sincerely hope you’ll find the right institution, soon, that truly wants the work that they produce to be innovative. And I hope it’s in higher ed. Not in the least, because that means there’s hope for me too. :)

  • http://blog.reyjunco.com/ Rey Junco

    Thank you, Liz. 

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for writing about this. I think that faculty job searches are much more ambiguous than student affairs searches. As someone interested in pursing a faculty position I’m finding it much harder to determine how to market the variety of experiences I held (prior to entering my PhD program I was a student affairs professional–however my degree emphasis is K-12 educational policy).
     

  • http://blog.reyjunco.com/ Rey Junco

    They are also less transparent than student affairs/administrator searches. I’ve often wondered why we don’t regularly use search agencies for faculty positions. 

  • http://mistakengoal.com/ Kevin R. Guidry

    Rey, although our backgrounds are very different many of our research interests and skills are very alike.  I’ve known about your job search for quite a while and I’ve sometimes thought to myself, “Man, if Rey can’t find a job doing this then I’m screwed!” :)

    Although I’m still ABD and will remain so for many months, I’ve recently decided to hit the job market. I’m keeping an eye on the student affairs job market, including faculty, but I know it’s not realistic to expect to find an opening that strongly focuses on technology.  In fact, I noticed the same thing 6 years ago when I was beginning to look at doctoral programs: student affairs talks a good game about technology competency being important but when it comes time to put money on the table (to create jobs, back research, etc.) then it’s revealed that it’s all been just talk.

    This is one of the reasons why I am almost certainly leaving student affairs and moving into faculty development.  Maybe I’m mistaken and the right job opening will appear tomorrow (and maybe I won’t know because I can’t afford to register for the two big job fairs on the minuscule chance that one job opening might fit).  And maybe I’ll be able to come back to the field in a few years when it has changed or when I have changed.  But in the meantime I have bills to pay and I want to pay them doing something meaningful, challenging, and fulfilling that utilize my skill sets and interests.  I can’t seem to do that in student affairs so I’m looking elsewhere.

  • http://blog.reyjunco.com/ Rey Junco

    Thank you for your helpful and honest insights, Kevin. Throughout my search, I’ve often recalled a conversation we had years ago where you said “I’m glad I won’t be in the job market against you” because you knew I was actively searching and you figured I’d get a job years before you finished your Ph.D. 

    I also agree with you about student affairs training programs– not just about talking a good game about technology, but also about many of the other concepts they like people to think they embrace. Social justice is a perfect example. There’s a lot of talk publicly about social justice and about how they are champions, but if you look at the makeup of student affairs faculty there’s not much egalitarianism.

  • http://twitter.com/hollyrae hollyrae

    You will be a tremendous asset to the organization where you decide to share your work, Rey. I think you really hit it on the head when it comes to ‘the way it has always been done.’ I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that our institutions have no idea what to do with a person like yourself; a researcher, practitioner – a true thought leader. My advice – write your own job description. Tell organizations and institutions what kind of work you want to do for them. What would you do if you could truly do what you loved? Those of us in your network (who would be grateful to have someone like you on our teams) will gladly take this information to those we believe to be true innovators and real leaders. The traditional method is invalid when it comes to you; you must help us understand what you want to do most so that we can help you find the right place to hang your amazing hat. :)

  • http://twitter.com/gavinhenning Gavin Henning

    Excellent post Rey. It is quite timely. I, too, am currently job searching. While I am looking at some administrative positions, I have tossed my nets (or rather myself), into the faculty waters hoping to get scooped up. I have had a few phone and campus interviews in addition to a few rejections (the most recent last night). During my morning commute, I was reflecting about why some institutions would be interested in my and others not. I have come to the conclusion that it is really about the research agenda. I have been getting positive vibes from institutions that primarily focus on teaching. My administrative and teaching experiences are assets to those types of institutions. However, my research agenda is an emerging one. I have had a few published pieces they do not coalesce around a particular topic and my current agenda are budding questions. I believe this is seen as a weakness by positions that are more research-focused. 

    I think you are on target that your research agenda may be a bit “new and novel” for some programs. My sense is that many programs are looking for established research agenda regarding established research topics. Unfortunately, search committees may not see how hiring someone with your unique knowledge, skills, and research interests could help set their program apart from all of the others. Perhaps there is a concern about the ability to secure grants? I am not sure. 

    This is just another example of the challenges that befall trendsetters because they are ahead of the curve.

  • http://blog.reyjunco.com/ Rey Junco

    Thank you, Holly. Interestingly, another colleague suggested that I create and post my own job description. I was still caught up in the anxiety of actually going ahead with this post so I wasn’t ready to extend the idea beyond the “here’s where I am” stage. However, it’s a great idea and I think should be my next step. 

  • http://blog.reyjunco.com/ Rey Junco

    Thank you for sharing, Gavin. Any program would be lucky to have you, especially with your assessment experience. I absolutely agree with you about research agenda. In my case, I wonder how my focus on social media obfuscates what people understand about my research. For instance, one of my research areas is student engagement and social media are just some of the tools I examine to get at questions of student engagement. 

    Your point about funding and grants is well taken and something that I’ve considered. On the one hand, I’m at a teaching institution so we don’t have the support structures (and reputation) in place that makes grant getting easier. I was even told once by a foundation that they loved my work but were concerned about my institution’s ability to manage the grant. And yet on the other hand, I haven’t yet landed decent external funding. Reviewer feedback about my proposals seems to suggest they are looking for something less innovative (for example, I’m proposing to do projects with social media while funding agencies are funding blended learning proposals).   

  • http://twitter.com/hollyrae hollyrae

    Make it so. Tweet it out! :)

  • http://twitter.com/ALovitz Aaron Lovitz

    I would like to thank you for this post

  • http://blog.reyjunco.com/ Rey Junco

    Thank you for sharing your story, Aaron. Check out the other comments in this thread– it looks like we’ve identified a common “outlier” theme. While we’ve experienced it in our field, I don’t think this issue is limited to student affairs. 

  • http://blog.reyjunco.com/ Rey Junco

    Thank you for sharing your story, Aaron. Check out the other comments in this thread– it looks like we’ve identified a common “outlier” theme. While we’ve experienced it in our field, I don’t think this issue is limited to student affairs. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/bruce.floyd Bruce Floyd

    Did you have the opportunity to ask these higher ed employers what would have made you a more attractive candidate to them?

  • http://blog.reyjunco.com/ Rey Junco

    Yes, I have Bruce. That’s not a question that gets me very far as typically the answer is something like “you are great, but the person we hired was a better fit.” I will often ask for more but generally when I can get more detailed feedback I’m told it’s less about me and more about who they chose to hire. 

    Here is the verbatim response from the last time I asked the question (I had a phone interview but no on-campus interview): “The pool of applicants was extremely strong and your application was among those that rose to the top of the pile. Unfortunately, we can only hire one individual.” Examining those who end up getting interviews or being hired helps me come to some of the conclusions which I’ve listed in this post. 

    There seems to be an unwritten rule for search committees/chairs not to offer too much feedback to candidates who weren’t selected. This is probably for fear of legal action. One of the last times I had an on-campus interview, a dean broke from this tradition and told me that I was great, not to change a thing, but that the people I was up against were senior-level faculty at a research 1 and I just couldn’t compete with them. While it was hard to hear, I appreciated his honesty.

  • Anon

    Dear Rey,

    Having sat on many hiring committees in various fields, I decided to read your CV as though it were an application.  I have to admit that I can immediately see why it is hard to make you an offer.  At 10 years after getting your PhD, a committee would want to see that you have a “strong” publication record.  You will be expected to have a significantly stronger publication record than someone at an earlier stage of their career, and a committee will need to achieve a higher level of certainty in your research level since you will come with tenure, or at least expect to get tenure within a short time.  

    Now, evaluating the strength of a publication record is a tricky business always, and is doubly hard in new not-yet-established fields such as yours where nobody knows yet whether it will develop into a real academic field.  In these cases, good research universities will want to see that you publish is the top venues: not just journals for your sub-area, but rather the top journals in a significantly wider field which people in the department already know and respect (and can check have a high impact-factor). In addition they will want to see many citations to your work.  

    Your best bet is to make a point of publishing in high-ranked wide-area academic journals.  Two or three papers in top venues would make all the difference. 

  • http://blog.reyjunco.com/ Rey Junco

    Thanks for your feedback. It is very helpful and well received. Interestingly enough, I’ve currently got a paper under review at one of the top general education journals and I plan to submit one of my next two manuscripts to another top general education journal. 

    I should point out two things: 1. I publish in technology and education journals, certainly not a niche area and 2. The last three journals I’ve published in have all had impact factors greater than 2.14. In the last year and a half, I’ve published three papers in Computers & Education which has an impact factor of 2.617 and is one of the top journals in the “Education and Educational Research” category. 

    For what it’s worth, I’ve had two deans at separate research 1′s (when I’ve had on-campus interviews) tell me that I have enough publications for tenure at their institutions; however, your point is right on the money– I don’t have as many publications as someone who’s been out for 10 years mostly because I’ve been doing administrative work and didn’t start to focus on publishing journal articles until later in my career (I’ve done it backwards writing my first two books first, then peer-reviewed papers). 

    But my points are actually both moot as I have been willing to come in at a lower rank and without tenure and have made that clear to search committees, even including a statement to that effect in my cover letter. While it might sound crazy, I’m even willing to come in at the assistant level.

  • Anon

    Rey,

    A couple of other thoughts:

    1. Student affairs programs tend to be small which means that programs need faculty members who have a focus, but are also generalists. You continue to describe yourself as specialist.

    2. It seems by your description that you don’t fit neatly into a particular type of program. Your doctorate is in counselor education and you are applying for teaching positions across 3 disciplines which are related, but have difference.

    3. You stressed in your original post that you are “full professor,” but are primarily and administrator. Outside of small group of institutions were a subset of administrators are granted faculty rank and tenure this is very unusual.

    4. You also describe yourself as a full professor, but state in your letters of application that you are willing to accept appointment as an assistant professor. Can you see where that might be regarded by some search committees as a red flag. Imagine a VPSA applying for a early mid-career level position.

    5. As for search firms, they aren’t employed for mid-level student affairs positions either. And in the end the search firm only identifies candidates, it doesn’t make hiring decisions.

  • http://blog.reyjunco.com/ Rey Junco

    Thanks again for additional context and feedback. One thing has certainly been clear to me for some time– I would not be a good fit in a student affairs prep. program. I have additional responses; however, it’s best that we continue this conversation via email/phone. If you’re uncomfortable doing that, I will understand. Otherwise, feel free to drop me a line.

  • http://twitter.com/SailWozniak Sail Wozniak (Linda)

    I too have been looking for a position for a couple of years now as an Instructional Designer. What I am finding is institutions (both educational and business) do not understand us. They are still stuck in the old school thought about learning. If you mention virtual worlds, or MOOCs etc…they really do not know anything about them. And they do not want to know. I had an interview with a large medical company here in the RTP, NC area and the Director of Education started yelling (literary) at me about the ROI of virtual worlds. All they want is to know if I can create projects in Camtasia or Presenter. If you talk about social media/literacy they do not want to hear it. Slowing the world is changing, but we are far ahead and it is hard for us to understand why people who are educating/training do not have the knowledge we do. 

    Good Luck

    Linda (Sail Wozniak)

  • http://blog.reyjunco.com/ Rey Junco

    Thanks! Good luck to you as well. I guess that’s the “curse of the progressive.” Interestingly though, I used to tell my colleagues in administration that in general faculty were much more progressive when it came to social media… it seems that I stand corrected. 

  • A.J. Kleinheksel

     Rey, thank you for sharing your story. I think that more academe opens up about these processes, the more accessible it will appear to students considering a career in teaching and research.

    Your diverse experience is an obvious strength, in my view. I’ve never understood higher ed faculty who have not worked professionally in student affairs or other professional divisions. How can you provide insight into a field if you’ve never experienced the minutia of day-to-day life there?

    I don’t pretend to have any answers to your job search challenges, but I am curious as to how you present yourself in your cover letters. I hope that you highlight your administrative experience as one of the assets that makes you stand out as an exceptional researcher. Explaining your experience would also help to explain why your number of publications is even more productive than at first glance, because you have not been full-time faculty. Again, I don’t think these things would solve the issues you suspect are hindering your search, but they are just my initial reactions.

  • http://blog.reyjunco.com/ Rey Junco

    Thanks A.J. – one of the things I highlight is that I’m a scholar practitioner in the truest sense of the term: I’m interested in conducting research that informs teaching and student support practices. Although the same thing that you believe helps my applications seems to be hindering it– having had 75% of my time carved out to be an administrator hasn’t left me time for much else. Further, we don’t have a grad program at my university that I can teach in (just as I developed and taught a course on social media in higher education, the graduate program was put into moratorium). 

  • http://twitter.com/suebecks Sue Beckingham

    Rey your influence has been far reaching and has certainly inspired my own here in the UK. I and many others look to you as an expert in the field. Stay true to yourself. The right institution will recognize this and allow you to pursue your dreams and develop this increasingly important area of research.

  • http://blog.reyjunco.com/ Rey Junco

    Hi Benjamin. Thanks for saying hello. I’d love to hear more about your research so please drop me an email sometime. We’ve got a really cool new Twitter paper coming out soon that you might be interested in.

    I really appreciate your positive comments about me and my work. I actually applied to that MSU position (it was one of my 10 from this past year). It would have been great to work with my colleague and friend Nicole Ellison, but I didn’t even get an interview. They expected that someone at my level should have had at least some major external funding (I have to say that I agree).

  • http://blog.reyjunco.com/ Rey Junco

    Thanks Sue. I have been honored to have so many people following my work from England. Maybe I should be searching in the UK as well :)

  • Anneliese

    Hi Dr. Junco! My name is Anneliese and I actually stumbled upon your blog. I’m a Sociology major at Cal Poly Pomona in California and I am also conducting a research on the impact of social media on college students. This was definitely an interesting read (especially for my research topic) and I wish you the best in your job search! :)
    Anneliese

  • http://blog.reyjunco.com/ Rey Junco

    Hi Anneliese – thanks for your comment! I look forward to hearing about your research… please drop me a line sometime. 

  • http://twitter.com/KarlynMB Karlyn Borysenko

    Would love to chat with you sometime – I’m interested in very similar things you are academically and have hit roadblock after roadblock in regards to incorporating social media into my dissertation for my Ph.D. It has simply blown my mind. So no, you’re not completely alone in this and those of us attempting to incorporate social into our academic pursuits need to band together!

  • http://blog.reyjunco.com/ Rey Junco

    Sure. Would be happy to chat sometime. The key is either finding an advisor who understands what you intend to do or one who you can educate about your work. Clearly, there are very few faculty members doing this kind of work so it takes quite a bit of effort on the students’ part to help them get it. Luckily, I know of many success stories. 

  • http://socialatedu.com/ Kevin Grubb

    Rey – forgive me that I’ve stumbled upon this post a few months after it was published, but I wanted to thank you for posting this and for your honesty about your search.  I am not on the faculty side of things in higher ed, but I am a fellow social media enthusiast in the field.  I really like what you’re doing and love reading what you study.  So, if a stranger has a vote, I say keep up what you’re doing.  It’s fascinating.

  • http://blog.reyjunco.com/ Rey Junco

    Thanks Kevin. I really appreciate your support. 

  • http://twitter.com/josh647 Josh Allen

    Hi Rey, 

    I am a student working at the college I attend, and although I study business my frustration with the lack of social media integration has provided me the opportunity to work for Dr Rupert Collister on making it part of the course curriculum. Alas, I am now working at bringing in Twitter as part of an active integrated classroom to my school. Albeit the pilot we are about to initiate will measure participation as opposed to grade differences in your research. We are even going as far as to make part of the course final grade from the number and quality of interactions students engage in on Twitter. We will also be getting qualitative and quantitative student feedback through video assignments that will be posted and shared. I am entering my third year of my diploma, thus my research will be nowhere near as conclusive as yours I would be willing to share some of the results and share what worked well for us. 

    Your work on the Twitter program with the Pre-health students has been a great help in confirming what I have been working to implement in the  institution I attend! 

    Keep up the solid research, remember that at some point in time every field went through the exact same thing. 

    You may find some work by Dr Aga Palalas from Athabasca Unviersity  helpful. She had a paper published in May 2012.

    I would love to keep in contact with you for discussion and insight. I’ll be following you (@josh647:disqus ) on Twitter!

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